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FACT CHECK: Presidential debate missteps

CALVIN WOODWARD

Asso­ci­ated Press

WASHINGTON — Pres­i­dent Barack Obama and Repub­li­can rival Mitt Rom­ney spun one-sided sto­ries in their first pres­i­den­tial debate, not nec­es­sar­ily bogus, but not the whole truth.

Here’s a look at some of their claims and how they stack up with the facts:

OBAMA: “I’ve pro­posed a spe­cific $4 tril­lion deficit reduc­tion plan. … The way we do it is $2.50 for every cut, we ask for $1 in addi­tional revenue.”

THE FACTS: In promis­ing $4 tril­lion, Obama is already bank­ing more than $2 bil­lion from leg­is­la­tion enacted along with Repub­li­cans last year that cut agency oper­at­ing bud­gets and capped them for 10 years. He also claims more than $800 bil­lion in war sav­ings that would occur any­way. And he uses cre­ative book­keep­ing to hide spend­ing on Medicare reim­burse­ments to doc­tors. Take those “cuts” away and Obama’s $2.50/$1 ratio of spend­ing cuts to tax increases shifts sig­nif­i­cantly more in the direc­tion of tax increases.

Obama’s Feb­ru­ary bud­get offered pro­pos­als that would cut deficits over the com­ing decade by $2 tril­lion instead of $4 tril­lion. Of that deficit reduc­tion, tax increases accounted for $1.6 tril­lion. He promises rel­a­tively small spend­ing cuts of $597 bil­lion from big fed­eral ben­e­fit pro­grams like Medicare and Med­ic­aid. He also pro­posed higher spend­ing on infra­struc­ture projects.

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ROMNEY on cut­ting the deficit: “Obamacare’s on my list. … I’m going to stop the sub­sidy to PBS. … I’ll make gov­ern­ment more efficient.”

THE FACTS: Rom­ney has promised to bal­ance the bud­get in eight years to 10 years, but he hasn’t offered a com­plete plan. Instead, he’s promised a set of prin­ci­ples, some of which — like increas­ing Pen­ta­gon spend­ing and restor­ing more than $700 bil­lion in cuts that Democ­rats made in Medicare over the com­ing decade — work against his goal. He also has said he will not con­sider tax increases.

He pledges to shrink the gov­ern­ment to 20 per­cent of the size of the econ­omy, as opposed to more than 23 per­cent of gross domes­tic prod­uct now, by the end of his first term. The Rom­ney cam­paign esti­mates that would require cuts of $500 bil­lion from the 2016 bud­get alone. He also has pledged to cut tax rates by 20 per­cent, pay­ing for them by elim­i­nat­ing tax breaks for the wealth­i­est and through eco­nomic growth.

To ful­fill his promise, then, Rom­ney would require cuts to other pro­grams so deep — under one cal­cu­la­tion requir­ing cut­ting many areas of the domes­tic bud­get by one-third within four years — that they could never get through Con­gress. Cuts to domes­tic agen­cies would have to be par­tic­u­larly deep.

But he’s offered only a few mod­est exam­ples of gov­ern­ment pro­grams he’d be will­ing to squeeze, like sub­si­dies to PBS and Amtrak. He does want to repeal Obama’s big health care law, but that law is actu­ally fore­cast to reduce the deficit.

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OBAMA: “Gov. Romney’s cen­tral eco­nomic plan calls for a $5 tril­lion tax cut — on top of the exten­sion of the Bush tax cuts, that’s another tril­lion dol­lars — and $2 tril­lion in addi­tional mil­i­tary spend­ing that the mil­i­tary hasn’t asked for. That’s $8 tril­lion. How we pay for that, reduce the deficit, and make the invest­ments that we need to make, with­out dump­ing those costs onto middle-class Amer­i­cans, I think is one of the cen­tral ques­tions of this campaign.”

THE FACTS: Obama’s claim that Rom­ney wants to cut taxes by $5 tril­lion doesn’t add up. Pre­sum­ably, Obama was talk­ing about the effect of Romney’s tax plan over 10 years, which is com­mon in Wash­ing­ton. But Obama’s math doesn’t take into account Romney’s entire plan.

Rom­ney pro­poses to reduce income tax rates by 20 per­cent and elim­i­nate the estate tax and the alter­na­tive min­i­mum tax. The Tax Pol­icy Cen­ter, a Wash­ing­ton research group, says that would reduce fed­eral tax rev­enues by $465 bil­lion in 2015, which would add up to about $5 tril­lion over 10 years.

How­ever, Rom­ney says he wants to pay for the tax cuts by reduc­ing or elim­i­nat­ing tax cred­its, deduc­tions and exemp­tions. The goal is a sim­pler tax code that raises the same amount of money as the cur­rent sys­tem but does it in a more effi­cient manner.

The knock on Romney’s plan, which Obama accu­rately cited, is that Rom­ney has refused to say which tax breaks he would elim­i­nate to pay for the lower rates.

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ROMNEY: Obama’s health care plan “puts in place an unelected board that’s going to tell peo­ple ulti­mately what kind of treat­ments they can have. I don’t like that idea.”

THE FACTS: Rom­ney is refer­ring to the Inde­pen­dent Pay­ment Advi­sory Board, a panel of experts that would have the power to force Medicare cuts if costs rise beyond cer­tain lev­els and Con­gress fails to act. But Obama’s health care law explic­itly explic­itly pro­hibits the board from rationing care, shift­ing costs to retirees, restrict­ing ben­e­fits or rais­ing the Medicare eli­gi­bil­ity age. So the board doesn’t have the power to dic­tate to doc­tors what treat­ments they can prescribe.

Rom­ney seems to be res­ur­rect­ing the asser­tion that Obama’s law would lead to rationing, made famous by for­mer Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s widely debunked alle­ga­tion that it would cre­ate “death panels.”

The board has yet to be named, and its mem­bers would ulti­mately have to be con­firmed by the Sen­ate. Health care infla­tion has been mod­est in the last few years, so cuts would be unlikely for most of the rest of this decade.

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OBAMA: It’s impor­tant “that we take some of the money that we’re sav­ing as we wind down two wars to rebuild America.”

THE FACTS: This oft-repeated claim is based on a fis­cal fic­tion. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were paid for mostly with bor­rowed money, so stop­ping them doesn’t cre­ate a new pool of avail­able cash that can be used for some­thing else, like rebuild­ing Amer­ica. It just slows down the government’s borrowing.

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ROMNEY: “At the same time, gaso­line prices have dou­bled under the pres­i­dent. Elec­tric rates are up.”

THE FACTS: He’s right that the aver­age price has dou­bled, and a lit­tle more, since Obama was sworn in. But pres­i­dents have almost no influ­ence on gaso­line prices, and cer­tainly not in the near term. Gaso­line prices are set on finan­cial exchanges around the world and are based on a host of fac­tors, most impor­tantly the price of crude oil used to make gaso­line, the amount of fin­ished gaso­line ready to be shipped and the capac­ity of refin­ers to make enough to meet mar­ket demand.

Retail elec­tric­ity prices have risen since Obama took office — barely. They’ve grown by an aver­age of less than 1 per­cent per year, less than the rate of infla­tion and slower than the his­tor­i­cal growth in elec­tric­ity prices. The unex­pect­edly mod­est rise in elec­tric­ity prices is because of the plum­met­ing cost of nat­ural gas, which is used to gen­er­ate electricity.

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OBAMA: “Inde­pen­dent stud­ies look­ing at this said the only way to meet Gov. Romney’s pledge of not … adding to the deficit is by bur­den­ing middle-class fam­i­lies. The aver­age middle-class fam­ily with chil­dren would pay about $2,000 more.”

THE FACTS: That’s just one sce­nario. Obama’s claim relies on a study by the Tax Pol­icy Cen­ter, a Wash­ing­ton research group. The study, how­ever, is more nuanced than Obama indicated.

The study con­cludes it would be impos­si­ble for Rom­ney to meet all of his stated goals with­out shift­ing some of the tax bur­den from peo­ple who make more than $200,000 to peo­ple who make less.

In one sce­nario, the study says, Romney’s pro­posal could result in a $2,000 tax increase for fam­i­lies who make less than $200,000 and have children.

Rom­ney says his plan wouldn’t raise taxes on any­one, and his cam­paign points to sev­eral stud­ies by con­ser­v­a­tive think tanks that dis­pute the Tax Pol­icy Center’s find­ings. Most of the con­ser­v­a­tive stud­ies argue that Romney’s tax plan would stim­u­late eco­nomic growth, gen­er­at­ing addi­tional tax rev­enue with­out shift­ing any of the tax bur­den to the mid­dle class. Con­gress, how­ever, doesn’t use those kinds of pro­jec­tions when it esti­mates the effect of tax legislation.

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